if anything, we have to be more willing to send people and devote effort to libya, not less. >> karen? >> is just going to say i think part of what the secretary was talking about is why i think she referred to columbia so often. we have to rethink how we're engaging in different parts of the world. it gives us a context for what we saw in benghazi. in the heat of the campaign we couldn't immediately give all those answers which is another thing i think she was trying to point out. we have to really rethink how are we engaging? what is the complement, whether it's defense resources, military resources, resources from the civilian world, our state department. how we do that is going to have -- we're going to have to change the way we think about that. >> mike, if john kerry does proceed to the state department as expected, he'll be working under the direction of a president who said this in his inaugural address. take a listen. >> we will show the courage to try and resolve our differences with other nations peacefully, not because we are naive about the dangers we face, but because en